Pro-M Univer Plus *DUW*..(Is this a pro-m univer?(at bottom)

[mustang01]

Does anyone know the part number for the flanged one for a 99+ V6 stang that will work with my procharger blower setup? I think it is the 3.5" one. Does anyone know where to get them?

Also, I am a 2001, so will it incorporate the IAT sensor wiring, or will I have to get that seperately?

[majorbta]

hey hit me up on aim i got a few link, but u better be ready to pay $400

[FlamingPony]

yes they cost a alot of $$$ even jerry said that.. id go with a 80mm or 90 from the lightning itll work fine. im not even going to switch mine around if anything i might sometime move the airfilter down into the engine

[mustang01]

Jerry actually recommended the 80mm Lightning Maf?

I thought they didnt like that one. I can get a Pro-M Univer brand new for less than $350, but the guy that gets them says that Pro-M sometimes takes a while to ship. Can be as soon as a week or as late as a month.

[FlamingPony]

alot of guys are using them jerry doesnt like the normal pro-m's stay away from those he highly recomended the universal one..hell 350 isnt to bad.the lightning maf would be fine to use

[gitman]

pete doesn't like the L mafs, jerry does, pete likes the Pro-M stuff, not sure what alberto's position is, quite frankly i would like to see the 2 of them debate about it.

[mustang01]

I am pretty sure we can all agree that they both like the Univer's the best. But they are costly.

What size Pro-M Univer do I need for my Procharger kit? And does it include the IAT stuff? Or would I have to get the IAT stuff seperately?

[stylin97]

like gitman said... pete recommends the 75mm pro-m, jerry says the 80mm L maf

im sure everyone would agree the univer is on top of both of them just the way it works, only drawback is the price.

mustang01 u need the one for your year car (96-03) so it would be the 3.5" one, no they dont have a built in iat sensor from what i know

[Stone]

The 3.5" one?

Thats 89mm. Way too big for a blow-through setup.

[mustang01]

Gaston, What size would work best with my procharger tubing?

[Stone]

Assuming the piping is 3", use a 3" Univ MAF

[majorbta]

Assuming the piping is 3", use a 3" Univ MAF

i dont think you can buy the 96+ style with the right connector in that size, i thought the onyl size they offered was 3.5"

[Stone]

Assuming the piping is 3", use a 3" Univ MAF

i dont think you can buy the 96+ style with the right connector in that size, i thought the onyl size they offered was 3.5"

Thats not what I heard.

[majorbta]

ok i was just going by what is listed on their site....

[TuxMask-Andy]

So when the maf is at the air filter its considered draw thru? and when its at 6 inches away from the throttle body then its considered blow thru correct???

Also what is better blow through or draw through?
To me it looks like draw through is easier and your pipes can be 2.5 inch dimater to the throttle body but doesn't give good readings where as a blow through give better readings but the draw back is that you have a 2.5 inch throttle body pipe and your maf is 3 inches or bigger.

[V6Sprout]

pete doesn't like the L mafs, jerry does, pete likes the Pro-M stuff, not sure what alberto's position is, quite frankly i would like to see the 2 of them debate about it.

yeah but tell me this who does the tuning? I would take the tuners advice since he knows personally how each react to the tuning process. The pro-m is still good though but not the best for the blow through appliction, on the prochargerd V6 at least.

[mustang01]

Is this a Pro-M Univer?

http://programmerz.com/ebay/maf/013.JPG
http://programmerz.com/ebay/maf/015.JPG
http://programmerz.com/ebay/maf/flowsheet.jpg

The seller doesn't know for sure, its used, and local.

[majorbta]

this is a univer

http://performancepartsmall.com/products/PM-M-3D.jpg

[mustang01]

What is the one that I posted?

Cause some guy responded to my wanted ad with that maf.

[shogo98stang]

So when the maf is at the air filter its considered draw thru? and when its at 6 inches away from the throttle body then its considered blow thru correct???

Also what is better blow through or draw through?
To me it looks like draw through is easier and your pipes can be 2.5 inch dimater to the throttle body but doesn't give good readings where as a blow through give better readings but the draw back is that you have a 2.5 inch throttle body pipe and your maf is 3 inches or bigger.

its considered blow thru if air is forced through the maf as opposed to being sucked through. the only difference is the direction the maf meters the air. blow through vs draw thru as far as what is better depends on the setup.

blow thru can allow you to have a bov w/o recirculating it. since u cant blow off metered air into the atmosphere.
thats the only advantage that i know of..im sure there are mor, but thats the one i care about. (i have a thing for BOVs)

thats my understanding

[justin00v6]

Just FYI. They have pretty much found the univers to work best on cars with blowthrough and really doesn't like the 80mm L mafs on them (reversion issues and such especially with inadequately bypassed SC setups). There is no debate about this any more, if you're going blowthrough then you need a univer.

The new style univers are about $300. You'll need to run an external IAT if you have an 01+.

[mustang01]

My 80mm Lightning MAF works beautifully with my blow thru setup.

IMO, its all in the tune.
If you want a badass tune, drive to Dallas TX and go to this guy named Dom. He's a fordchip affiliate. I would've got more power for sure, but my tune was cut short due to problems with the mounting plate/eating belts. Because of the problem, the tune was cut short so that I could get my problem fixed. So I didn't get a full tune but still came out with alot. No idle problems or anything. Its perfect imo, and he only tuned a couple v6's before mine.

Dom works at a shop in Lewisville TX called SpeedWorks. www.txspeedworks.com

[pete]

pete doesn't like the L mafs, jerry does, pete likes the Pro-M stuff, not sure what alberto's position is, quite frankly i would like to see the 2 of them debate about it.

Not exactly, Jerry and I both agree the L should not be used in a blow through.

Jerry and I both like the Univer.

[bluestang00us]

Are the Vortech systems blow through or draw through? Do they do well with the Lightning meters?

[gitman]

ooooold damn

[justin00v6]

Are the Vortech systems blow through or draw through? Do they do well with the Lightning meters?

There is not enough room to run a vortech with blowthrough, unless you have an IC. An L meter is fine on a V6, just has to be suck through.