Custom Delk 4.2 Now DOA

[Phil]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

Final flow numbers:

Found this thread from Feb 2008 http://www.v6power.net/vb/showthread...ht=main+girdle

See post #28.

[FR350]

Originally Posted by matthewneuharth

nope more like a 30% loss in a non-lock up c4 trans.

OH I had no idea anyone ran a trans that was that inefficient, does anyone happen to know what a 4R70W has for % of loss?

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by FR350

OH I had no idea anyone ran a trans that was that inefficient, does anyone happen to know what a 4R70W has for % of loss?

It would be interesting to know. I would also love to see data from the same motor engine & chassis dyno.

[FR350]

OK I have a plan, you know every flow bench will be a little different but still should be close. I have to do some things in Dearborn next week and I will bring back my big heads and put them as well as my stock valve heads on Accufabs 1020 flow bench, then go to Westech and put them on their 600 bench.

Does anyone know where any pics of my B/V heads or the stock valve heads are on the site, I think we need to get all the flow data together again but this time have some sort of cert. Anyone in the So-Cal area are welcome to come by and see all my testing, if you have a set of heads to test than bring them too.

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by ZStang

Oh. I must've missed this thread. Sorry to hear Kirk. So what's next engine-wise? Stock 4.2? I know you must miss driving that convt.

Zeke,

See my current build details in our Projects Builds section

[David Neibert]

Originally Posted by matthewneuharth

kirk had a 1.94 intake valve and a 1.55 exhaust.

i have 1.84 and 1.575 exhaust.

Originally Posted by matthewneuharth
well i never did post the Flow #s from my weak single ports. soo here is da #s.

Intake-1.84 intake valve
.050-49.7
.100-85.7
.200-168.5
.300-216.4
.400-251.0
.500-278.7
.600-294.0
.700-312.1

exhaust-1.575

.050-34.2
.100-48.1
.200-99.2
.300-151.4
.400-204.7
.500-234.8
.600-259.7
.700-266.7

Matt,

Are these flow numbers typical for Delk's single port heads and are the exhaust ports welded ? Even with oversized valves ported/welded SC heads don't even come close to flowing those numbers.

David

[Suprman]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

I would love to But I have sent the Custom Stage 3 heads, lower intake, pistons, bearings, and valves to Delk so they could personally inspect them back on May 09, 2008.

So let me get this straight, not only did they take your money for all this work, but they have had the FAILED Parts as well for over 6months and meanwhile, you lost 6monthes of good top down driving weather, and still have no money or parts? what is Delk's phone number, if you have a direct line to Brent I would like that instead, I would really like to know what is taking them 7 months to figure out when it comes to this situation. How have you kept from completely going insane yet Kirk?

[matthewneuharth]

Originally Posted by FR350

OH I had no idea anyone ran a trans that was that inefficient, does anyone happen to know what a 4R70W has for % of loss?

umm the 4r70w is normally about 20% ish.

[matthewneuharth]

Originally Posted by David Neibert

Matt,

Are these flow numbers typical for Delk's single port heads and are the exhaust ports welded ? Even with oversized valves ported/welded SC heads don't even come close to flowing those numbers.

David

those where my heads. they flowed alittle more then usual cause we did some stuff to them. the 2nd set flowed alittle less i wanna say 290ish or soo. but we no longer use that porter soo i would hate to guess what the new place gets.

[P-feif]

Originally Posted by CobraSnakebyte

OMG The return of Zeke!

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Kirk, I really hope all of this gets straightened out for you soon. I'd really like to see your car make some passes at the next race (if it happens)

+1!!!!!!!

[_J_]

Originally Posted by FR350

OH I had no idea anyone ran a trans that was that inefficient, does anyone happen to know what a 4R70W has for % of loss?

stock about 20-21% and a little more on built tranny with more clutches.. est. 22%

[_J_]

Originally Posted by matthewneuharth

those where my heads. they flowed alittle more then usual cause we did some stuff to them. the 2nd set flowed alittle less i wanna say 290ish or soo. but we no longer use that porter soo i would hate to guess what the new place gets.

Thank GOD!!! thats the same porter that F*up K.. heads right?
thats a very good move by Dlk ..

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by _J_

Thank GOD!!! thats the same porter that F*up K.. heads right?
thats a very good move by Dlk ..

[slvr2000stang]

Well some good news.

I recieved an email from Brent, so this may get resolved, I will post up any progress.





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[_J_]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

Well some good news.

I recieved an email from Brent, so this may get resolved, I will post up any progress.

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wow NICE!!! That is GREAT keep us posted!! lets keep it low key until its resolved..

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by _J_

when I had issues .. I got paid for everything not just the parts but my time
as well and my ford guy time to re-do stuff .. so I got paid for both parts and labor!!
now that type of biz is class act to me .. one reason why I will only deal with RPM

Wow J. That is really standing behind your products.

I know Tom Y also did a similar guesture with Shiner Jr's motor.





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[_J_]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

Wow J. That is really standing behind your products.

I know Tom Y also did a similar guesture with Shiner Jr's motor.

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yeah Mik@RPM stand 100% behind his product I was so impress,
remember when the motor oil pan had one of the holes in the wrong spot
and my Ford guy installed the motor .. we had to pull the motor back out
get a new oil pan and makes the turbo drain holes in the correct area
then re-install the motor.. Mik paid for everything including my time did
not even had to ask him .. just told him what we had to do, and that was
a good amount of money too..

and the RR nuts that got busted .. he paid for doing that job too and paid
for two different sets of comp. nuts .. I still have one new set in a box
not used .. he said to just keep it .. just in case .. two years running no
other issues. And all my issues was paid for both parts and labor!!
some of the issues could have been avoided if me or my Ford guy had
check before installing the motor lol but he still paid for the labor!!

And you know me, I don’t recommend anyone or product unless they prove
them self and product to me!!

[NMStang218]

Yep, when mik sent me the wrong pushrods, he even sent me a new gasket SET that I really didnt need with the correct pushrods.

Kirk- I wouldnt accept anything less than them paying for EVERYTHING and im sure

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by _J_

yeah Mik@RPM stand 100% behind his product I was so impress,
remember when the motor oil pan had one of the holes in the wrong spot
and my Ford guy installed the motor .. we had to pull the motor back out
get a new oil pan and makes the turbo drain holes in the correct area
then re-install the motor.. Mik paid for everything including my time did
not even had to ask him .. just told him what we had to do, and that was
a good amount of money too..

and the RR nuts that got busted .. he paid for doing that job too and paid
for two different sets of comp. nuts .. I still have one new set in a box
not used .. he said to just keep it .. just in case .. two years running no
other issues. And all my issues was paid for both parts and labor!!
some of the issues could have been avoided if me or my Ford guy had
check before installing the motor lol but he still paid for the labor!!

And you know me, I don’t recommend anyone or product unless they prove
them self and product to me!!

That would sure put a good ending to this.



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[FR350]

I always see good things about RPM, Super 6 and Morana on the net, they are all stand up places to do business with. Hey what happened to RGR, I haven't seen him here for some time?

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by _J_

yeah Mik@RPM stand 100% behind his product I was so impress,
remember when the motor oil pan had one of the holes in the wrong spot
and my Ford guy installed the motor .. we had to pull the motor back out
get a new oil pan and makes the turbo drain holes in the correct area
then re-install the motor.. Mik paid for everything including my time did
not even had to ask him .. just told him what we had to do, and that was
a good amount of money too..

and the RR nuts that got busted .. he paid for doing that job too and paid
for two different sets of comp. nuts .. I still have one new set in a box
not used .. he said to just keep it .. just in case .. two years running no
other issues. And all my issues was paid for both parts and labor!!
some of the issues could have been avoided if me or my Ford guy had
check before installing the motor lol but he still paid for the labor!!

And you know me, I don’t recommend anyone or product unless they prove
them self and product to me!!

reason why im going with RPM rotating assembly...
if J can beat up his car i know i can
plus ive talked to Mik before. very cool nice guy. despite the many emails and phone calls i probably annoy him with lol

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by _J_

yeah Mik@RPM stand 100% behind his product I was so impress,
remember when the motor oil pan had one of the holes in the wrong spot
and my Ford guy installed the motor .. we had to pull the motor back out
get a new oil pan and makes the turbo drain holes in the correct area
then re-install the motor.. Mik paid for everything including my time did
not even had to ask him .. just told him what we had to do, and that was
a good amount of money too..

and the RR nuts that got busted .. he paid for doing that job too and paid
for two different sets of comp. nuts .. I still have one new set in a box
not used .. he said to just keep it .. just in case .. two years running no
other issues. And all my issues was paid for both parts and labor!!
some of the issues could have been avoided if me or my Ford guy had
check before installing the motor lol but he still paid for the labor!!

And you know me, I don’t recommend anyone or product unless they prove
them self and product to me!!

Negotiations have commenced.

Stay tuned.



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[cgrant26]

Originally Posted by FR350

I always see good things about RPM, Super 6 and Morana on the net, they are all stand up places to do business with. Hey what happened to RGR, I haven't seen him here for some time?

Add VMP to that list.

[Suprman]

Originally Posted by cgrant26

Add VMP to that list.

I agree 200%! Justin is another one that is out of the world when it comes to customer satisfaction!

[V6Sprout]

I have installed 2 motors from Mik at RPM (Flamingpony and Frank my neighbor) and so far not one issue with either motor, I guess RPM is immune to the Sprout curse that everyone speaks of

[_J_]

Originally Posted by V6Sprout

I have installed 2 motors from Mik at RPM (Flamingpony and Frank my neighbor) and so far not one issue with either motor, I guess RPM is immune to the Sprout curse that everyone speaks of

omg lmao good one

[slvr2000stang]

Please stay on topic here please.

[slvr2000stang]

Still negotiating

Might have to come down to




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[_J_]

ahhh sorry to hear K.. why the long ass negotiating? are they not going to pay for everything?

[slvr2000stang]

the initial offer was obscene

[dapack69]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

the initial offer was obscene

$2's?

[Shinerstang]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

Wow J. That is really standing behind your products.

I know Tom Y also did a similar guesture with Shiner Jr's motor..

That is correct Kirk. Tom stood by his motor 100%....... That is the reason I send business from my other forum. I didn't like the "maybe's" from the current motor. Too bad, because I would have done the same for them......

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by dapack69

$2's?

Damn close



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[CobraSnakebyte]

Kirk, I love your custom user title

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by CobraSnakebyte

Kirk, I love your custom user title

LOL Thanks, And it's the truth.




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[dapack69]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

LOL Thanks, And it's the truth.

I don't get it. Why would you pick Wisconsin Department of Administration for the title?

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by dapack69

I don't get it. Why would you pick Wisconsin Department of Admisitration for the title?

http://www.doa.state.wi.us/

User title not thread title.

[dapack69]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

User title not thread title.

Now I see the light.

[ENODER]

That's the noobest port job I have ever seing!!

Sorry to hear Kirk

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

Ports on the heads.

ugh these disgust me so much. no offense but even to the guy building the motor if he didnt see that this was an issue he shouldnt be building motors...

[FR350]

Man I would love to get those 300+ CFM heads in the flow test here at Accufab, with all the heads I have ported and tested on the flow bench for a split-port all I ever seen was high 200's.

[slvr2000stang]

Originally Posted by FR350

Man I would love to get those 300+ CFM heads in the flow test here at Accufab, with all the heads I have ported and tested on the flow bench for a split-port all I ever seen was high 200's.

Delk has them now, so all you have to do is see if they will send them out to you. Talk to Matt.

[init]

Originally Posted by FR350

Man I would love to get those 300+ CFM heads in the flow test here at Accufab, with all the heads I have ported and tested on the flow bench for a split-port all I ever seen was high 200's.

if i do not end up selling my car, maybe one day i will send you a head, is looks identical to kirk's

[itschristorres8]

Originally Posted by slvr2000stang

Delk has them now, so all you have to do is see if they will send them out to you. Talk to Matt.

i hope theyve been sent to an aluminum yard and burnt down or w/e they do

[FR350]

I have seen some ports that look like they were ported with a hammer and chisel and they had good flow and I have seen some perfect finish on ports that suck for flow, I would only question these heads due to the many other problems the engine has.